![]() ![]() The cables had fraying fabric sheathing (house built in 1964), but several of the wires had insulation split away and hardened, leaving sections of exposed copper at various points (outside the wirenuts). It's clearly not fan rated and was heavily corroded, so I figured I would see if it was reasonably replaceable with one that is. The junction box is installed on a bracket between joists. She went ahead with the electrician's recommendation and I won't argue it, but I do want to learn in case I see something like that again.įor the pro's here, does this sound "normal"? What would you do? The electrician apparently thought it was "normal" for an old house. I stopped and refused to continue until she called an electrician to take a look. My mother-in-law asked me to hang a ceiling fan, and I found something that looked dangerous. Now where should my white and black wire from the fan connect once its dropped so i can use the switch for the can only? Run white wire from white bundle to silver side with bridge Run black wire from bundle to gold side of outlet with a bridge So if its good to just drop another cable into here and go i just want to make sure i have everything in order. ![]() Is there going to be a problem if i run a 4th cable into here for the fan? my only guess is the power goes from here to the other outlets that are always powered, and this is just the only one on a switch. Now i already have 3 cables coming into the outlet box, but nothing else is switched. ![]() I have not yet dropped any airing for the fan, everything you see is as it stand right now, just pulled the cover off. I have attached pics so everyone can see what i am working with. so i know i have to splice into the wiring that is at the outlet. the powered wiring goes to the outlet first, than from there a switch is connected. I have an out let that is controlled by a switch. So since my drill battery is charging, i figured i might as well double check with everyone. I have been reading up on this all over and i have found several different answers, and other posts or other questions that are just confusing me now. Should I just pull the old box and tear out some of the surrounding plaster and put in a new box? Or just drill some pilot holes to find some solid wood to put the ceiling plate screws into? I'm sure I'll put my foot right through the ceiling somewhere! I've looked in the attic to see what kind of structure I have up there, but there's about a foot of blown-in insulation and I don't trust myself to walk around up there. If I have it set for 1/2" depth, it doesn't read anything and if I have it set for 3/4" it senses a continuous stud. ![]() I have a Stanley Stud finder, but it doesn't seem to work on the plaster. Can I use the existing box with a Hunter fan/light? I know the ceiling bracket for the Hunter should get screwed into a wood support in the ceiling, but honestly, I don't know how to find that without just drilling a bunch of pilot holes. I don't have a lot of experience with plaster. Below is a pic of the existing junction box. Those little z-fold green things work OK too but fall out and are not quite as solid.I live in an old house (circa 1926) with plaster ceilings and want to install a ceiling fan in our bedroom. I used small washers on the mounting screws (behind the captive paper square) to space the switches & outlets out to where I like them so they would have a solid mount (yes, I know there is no one else in the world who would go to the trouble, but I hate the sound of the cover plate breaking if an outlet is not spaced out and you have to push a plug in with force) (and I dislike the shiney nylon unbreakable cover plates) You get pretty good at guessing the number of washers to use and it doesn't take much time but I wouldn't recommend it for commercial work. On another project I used the same boxes with 1/2" mud rings and 1/2" drywall but found the rings ended up recessed in farther than I like. They have a 'TS' bracket to position them on the studs. I recently installed a couple hundred Raco 235 4x4 (deep) electrical boxes in a house I'm building for myself. Perhaps a little explanation is in order. ![]()
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